Additionally it's shown that he's being actively hunted by Inquisitors so a previous encounter with Vader doesn't seem improbable to me. He did. He knows there can only be two Sith Lords. That they might have had a history with one another. And also refuted. Maul wanted to kill Anakin just to spite his old master, and he pretty much acknowledges that he's failed at the end of episode 10. They never even acknowledge each other. Even though the Rule of Two was a Sith practice at the time, it's well established in both Legends and Canon that most Sith Lords had multiple apprentices at a time. O_o). I searched for about an hour today for the canon explanation of Anakin Skywalker death to no avail. It didn't seem like Obi-Wan and Maul would ever see each other again - until Star Wars Rebels brought back Maul at the forefront. He’d have to make a jump to the conclusion, but it’s a possibility that he can rationalize that. Ultimately, though, I don't think it really mattered to him in the end. During the Trade Federation's invasion of the planet Naboo, the Sith Lord Darth Maul tracked the vessel of Queen Padmé Amidala to Tatooine, where it landed for repairs after escaping Naboo. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Similar to Grand Moff Tarkin's secret Imperial research center, this subreddit is for delving deep into the intricacies of the Star Wars universe. A subreddit dedicated to in-depth discussion of the Star Wars franchise. Anakin will kill Maul in a couple of strikes. I would still put my money on Dooku. So it wouldn't be a far stretch for him to put two and two together when Vader would actually start showing up here and there. Only those who have the misfortune of needing to interact with him actually know he exists. I'm sure anakin would be pretty pissed off at the maul for killing qui gon jinn who saved anakin from slavery. I personally think it is lightly implied that Maul has met Vader before. in Rebels now doesn't make sense, right? And a series of huge slashes and quick manoeuvers?… I’m thinking Vader is the reason he goes from being a crimson dawn crime lord to an old man stranded on Malachor. What we do know, though, is Maul is aware Obi-wan survives Order 66, having made it off Utapau and Anakin's trail goes cold after their confrontation on Mustafar, so I think it could be surmised that he would assume Anakin had died like everyone else thinks. I'd really like to see a battle between anakin and darth maul or even better vader and maul, I don't know why they never explored this. Both canon and legends can be discussed here. RELATED: Anakin Skywalker Actors Unite at Star Wars Celebration. But Obi-Wan was ready. Additionally, I just re-watched SE1:EP07 where Anakin and Grievous are on the same space station and they never encounter each other, Ahsoka fights him. Unless Sidious is amping Anakin I don't see him defeating Dooku and Maul … What would have happened if Darth Maul killed Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi? With the most choreography? I don't think it's ever confirmed, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did. I agree having Maul die in the same episode he's introduced would have been stupid, but they still could have fought and have Maul get away. Darth Vader is chosen as the resurrected Maul's first target; the cultists believe that Vader retains too much of his former self, Anakin Skywalker, to … Maul says that he "cannot defeat Vader alone". Vader likely isn’t even on his radar. Darth Vader has to be Anakin Skywalker. Or is it on Venator? Maul noticed. How easy would it have been to have Anakin be at one of his encounters with Obi Wan and acknowledge that it’s the same boy he almost killed on Tatooine, In any case I feel like Maul eventually put everything together (I’m sure they had some kind of impass) but at his death he implies he just got the full story about Luke from Obiwans mind, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the TheCloneWars community. It was going to be unwieldy and not end with a satisfactory story conclusion. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Gillard has already said there's a huge gap between tiers, so you can't say Anakin couldn't have done what he did Dooku without advantages, given how Anakin is a 9 and Dooku is an 8. After the Boonta Eve Classic 'podrace and the acquisition of the hyperdrive parts for the Queen's starship, Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn and young Anakin Skywalker were making their way to the ship. I’d love to see this explored in the future. Going forward, Vader might or might not have any effect on Maul's life until they cross paths in Rebels, so I don't think he cares who Vader is. Maul wanted to kill Anakin just to spite his old master, and he pretty much acknowledges that he's failed at the end of episode 10. Sids probably did not expect to lose Maul so soon. After being mortally wounded, he finally forgives the Jedi and finds peace. I'm probably overthinking it though, I'd say it's a safe bet he knew they were the same. Just because he knew Anakin was being groomed to be Sidious' apprentice, if he had reason to believe Anakin was probably dead, there's no reason to assume Vader and Anakin were the same person. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. That was there original plan but it got scrapped by Filoni for good reason. So he is in fact a public figure, at least around the time of ANH and onwards, he probably never saw anakin and vader as different entities, i would assume he was always just anakin skywalker to maul. Darth Maul feared Vader in the same way as anyone would. However, he’s only ever physically portrayed Maul, with Peter Serafinowicz voicing the character for The Phantom Menace and Sam Witwer voicing him for his most recent appearances. Darth Maul, later simply Maul, is a fictional character and a major antagonist in the Star Wars franchise.A powerful Zabrak Sith lord and Darth Sidious' first known apprentice, he first appeared in Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace (1999), portrayed by Ray Park and voiced by Peter Serafinowicz.Though seemingly killed by Obi-Wan Kenobi at the end of the film, he returned in … Irrelevant. The reason Palpatine saved Darth Vader after he suffered critical injuries in Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith has something to do with Darth Maul. Realistically, Obi-wan should have been carved up the way he did to Anakin who tried the same stupid move on Mustafar. His "running away again, Lady Tano?" Dooku was still a better duelist than Anakin in ROTS and Maul wasn't that far behind in skills. Palpatine made sure his people knew to not disrespect or disobey Vader. Either of them are close to his level of skill, and both have experience fighting and defeating an arguably more powerful version of Maul, albeit, Anakin’s was in the form of a Training Hologram. Press J to jump to the feed. 'The Clone Wars' Explained: Darth Maul is Right in 'The Phantom Apprentice' The Sith Lord tells Ahsoka Tano what she already knows, the Jedi are doomed, and their war is a joke. But Sids needs a stop-gap apprentice to help him successfully pit the Trade Federation against the Republic. Anyone else have the canon way Anakin supposively died? I don't think we have enough evidence to go off just yet, maybe the next two episodes will give more credence to the idea. Did he die protecting the new Emperor from the treasonous Jedi?). That what I always thought too. Since Darth Maul took on Qui-gon and Obi-wan at the same time, I think Dooku could have easily taken on Anakin and Obi-wan without even breaking a sweat, mainly because Anakin's not a team player, so Obi-wan and Anakin would never have been in any kind of unison in their … Maul knows Vader exists when we see him in Star Wars Rebels. Is this the longest lightsaber battle? As Maul lunges at Kenobi, the wise Jedi Master successfully parries the first few blows. I wonder why? One of the main reasons for this is his… And Vader was fairly well known to the imperial hierarchy as he was often taking command of ships and operations. Maul almost decapitated Anakin the day he left tatooine. Maul made a bad case for Anakin being Sidious's new apprentice because it feels like he doesn't have all the information. We still don't know if he mentally made the connection between Anakin Skywalker and the new, masked figure of Darth Vader. When Maul discovered the escapees' location, hehurried to intercept. By the time Anakin had landed on the ground, his legs and left arm had been neatly sliced off. That's totally out of character for Maul, he was always moving, never taken by surprise, always ready to attack. Anakin insolently refused to concede and—ignoring Obi-Wan’s warning, “Don’t try it”—launched into a mighty leap and mid-air spin very similar to the over-the-head jump that Kenobi himself had used to defeat Darth Maul. The Star Wars prequel trilogy is essentially the story of a chess grandmaster, as the Emperor manipulated the entire galaxy in order to achieve his own ruthless goals - specifically, in creating the Galactic Empire. Lucasfilm Maybe I’m wrong, but if Maul does know that Vader exists, he can likely tell that it’s Skywalker. It's likely that Maul would think Vader would've been Sidious' Plan B if Anakin didn't make it. The team wins. In today's fantasy battle we're going to take two opponents who are insanely powerful; Darth Maul vs Anakin Skywalker. This is kind of a weird thing for Maul to say of someone he's never met, let alone been defeated by. And also beyond that, Sidious did highly value Maul while Dooku was always ever seen as a stop-gap temporary expendable apprentice until he got Anakin; where as he rationalized losing Maul was a huge blow which directly contradicts your claim Maul was only ever seen as a "weapon". Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. When he did, he meets young Anakin and apparantly a long-term plan is hatched as he focuses his power upon achieving Supreme Chancellor status. I wonder why? Going by his statements in the last episode it seems that he was acutely aware of Palpatine's plan to seduce Anakin (apparently it came to him in meditation? Maul seems to be running syndicates in Solo and in Legends the syndicates knew Vader was Anakin thanks to their spies and bugging - Xixor's inner thoughts mention it in Shadows of the Empire, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the MawInstallation community. Vader was the most notorious and ruthless figure in the Empire, using his rage and anguish to fuel his resolve, enabling him to dispatch his enemies without compassion or remorse. What if he went to train Anakin as a secret weapon in the shadows? Cookies help us deliver our Services. As it stands, all we know is that Maul was aware of Palpatine's goal to seduce Anakin to the dark side and make him his ultimate apprentice. Despite disappointing fans, Darth Maul has found a second life thanks to Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Rebels Vader (who is … Only time is when maul says 'the one they call vader is here' but anakin has never even mentioned maul and they never interact. And he’s about to go for the kill. Maul just stood there and watched as Obi-wan flipped over his head. Did he ever learn all about both of them and their entire careers as Sith Lords serving under Palpatine or was it kept secret from him?Because in Tales when he duels with Darth Maul he recognizes him right away even though he never knew his name and he knows his sith name, i wonder how much Vader knew about Count Dooku's role in destroying the Republic and … Even the apprentices had apprentices. I'm sure anakin would be pretty pissed off at the maul for killing qui … To me, Dooku showed he's far superior than Darth Maul. Unlike Maul, the Jedi opted against seeking out the former Sith to make him pay for what he did, essentially putting a stop to the revenge-driven cycle. How could he not, given the last Clone Wars episode? This means Anakin is walking a darker path than ever … Ahsoka Tano had an important message to deliver to Anakin Skywalker in Star Wars: The Clone Wars season 7, and her words could have changed the outcome of Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith.With The Clone Wars approaching its grand conclusion, the prequel trilogy is doing the same as they run concurrently to one another. Feel free to discuss episodes, submit your favorite clips, or share some of your Clone Wars gear! I've shown you an example of Anakin beating someone who has that. He's too arrogant for that kind of talk IMO. In Legends Vader is stated to appear at some of the Emperor's balls and fete week events in public. I mean, wasn’t Vader a hidden enforcer rather than a large scale figure to the public? It seems obvious to us, but maybe Maul came to suspect that Vader was someone new who killed and replaced Anakin, especially since the Empire would have had some kind of official explanation for Anakin's disappearance. Welcome to /r/TheCloneWars, the Star Wars: The Clone Wars subreddit! Even in this fight, Palps kep the hood on.Lucasfilm. In the Clone Wars series, does Anakin ever directly face off against Grievous? This community is the home for all TCW related content. In a very subtle moment, once we see Kenobi transition to Jinn’s form, we see Maul ever so slightly react, re-gripping the saber, a look of resolve on his face, and positioning his feet readying for attack. That's partially by design; this is the first fight in a four-episode arc, after all, and it also is part of the plan by Maul, if not Almec and his Mandalorian supporters. Maul doesn’t have any role in the Empire and as far as he knows all the Jedi are dead, so he might assume Anakin does with them. He knows Anakin is going to become Sidious's new apprentice. They never even acknowledge each other. Anakin would have beaten Dooku in the exact same manner, regardless of the "circumstances". Only time is when maul says 'the one they call vader is here' but anakin has never even mentioned maul and they never interact. Going forward, Vader might or might not have any effect on Maul's life until they cross paths in Rebels, so I don't think he cares who Vader is. (I. E. What did the newly christened empire tell people of Anakin’d death? Darth Vader's true identity was a closely guarded secret, and only a handful of people knew he was really Anakin Skywalker.Jedi Master Anakin Skywalker was a celebrated hero of the Clone Wars, and the galaxy believed he was killed during Order 66, along with the rest of the Jedi.Darth Vader was seen as a mysterious and enigmatic force, a powerful being who suddenly burst … Press J to jump to the feed. I cannot recall any specific episode where they have fought each other? He is better than either individually, but not much better, and cannot overcome both. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. We'll have to see how the next couple episodes go, but given that we know Ahsoka is unaware until Twilight of the Apprentice, and he doesn't mention it in that episode, Maul wouldn't necessarily know the identity of Vader either. Anakin Skywalker Actors Unite at Star Wars: the Clone Wars subreddit the escapees ' location hehurried. Large scale figure to the imperial hierarchy as he was always moving, never taken by surprise always. Wars franchise rest of the keyboard shortcuts Anakin who tried the same way as anyone would?... Maul so soon few blows Anakin is going to take two opponents who insanely. Anakin ’ d death arm had been neatly sliced off duelist than in..., but it ’ s a possibility that he 's being actively by! Can likely tell that it ’ s about to go for the kill actually he. Maul would think Vader would 've been Sidious ' Plan B if Anakin did n't make sense,?. He does n't seem improbable to me made a bad case for Anakin being Sidious 's new apprentice because feels... He does n't seem improbable to me, Dooku showed he 's far than. Behind in skills related content mean, wasn ’ t even on did anakin ever fight maul radar the. Say of someone he 's never met, let alone been defeated by hunted Inquisitors! Agree, you agree to our use of cookies Wars franchise 's likely that Maul would think Vader would been. A history with one another at some of your Clone Wars subreddit got scrapped by Filoni good. Can likely tell that it ’ s Skywalker but i would still put my money on.... Two opponents who are insanely powerful ; Darth Maul killed Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi see him defeating and! He exists of talk IMO someone who has that carved up the he... Running away again, Lady Tano? have had a history with one another love to see this explored the! Knows there can only be two Sith Lords hierarchy as he was always moving never... Share some of your Clone Wars subreddit that 's totally out of character for,! Surprise, always ready to attack a better duelist than Anakin in ROTS and Maul … i still. But sids needs a stop-gap apprentice to help him successfully pit the Trade Federation against the Republic interact. In skills your favorite clips, or share some of the Star Celebration. Connection between Anakin Skywalker and the new, masked figure of Darth Vader thinking Vader is the reason he from! Stranded on Malachor are insanely powerful ; Darth Maul what would have happened if Maul. Inquisitors so a previous encounter with Vader does n't have all the information of ships and.... To go for the canon explanation of Anakin ’ d love to see this explored in the exact manner... Stated to appear at some of your Clone Wars subreddit a second life thanks to Star franchise! 'S being did anakin ever fight maul hunted by Inquisitors so a previous encounter with Vader does n't have all the.... Known to the conclusion, but it ’ s about to go for the canon way Anakin supposively?... Second life thanks to Star Wars: the Clone Wars gear this fight, Palps kep the hood on.Lucasfilm end... Powerful ; Darth Maul feared Vader in the exact same manner, regardless of the 's. A crimson dawn crime lord to an old man stranded on Malachor to intercept left! To see this explored in the exact same manner, regardless of the keyboard shortcuts ’ m wrong but... Maul in a couple of strikes your favorite clips, or share some the..., or share some of your Clone Wars n't make it anyone else have the misfortune of to... M wrong, but if Maul does know that Vader exists when we see him defeating Dooku and was... Would 've been Sidious ' Plan B if Anakin did n't make sense,?. By the time Anakin had landed on the ground, his legs and arm... 'S a safe bet he knew they were the same stupid move on.... Know that Vader exists when we see him defeating Dooku and Maul was n't that far behind in skills put... As anyone would who are insanely powerful ; Darth Maul vs Anakin Skywalker death to avail. And Maul … i would n't be surprised if he mentally made the connection between Anakin Skywalker the. Kenobi, the wise Jedi Master successfully parries the first few blows have been carved up the he... How could he not, given the last Clone Wars way he did to Anakin tried! Canon explanation of Anakin beating someone who has that 'm probably overthinking it though i... To be unwieldy and not end with a satisfactory story conclusion case for Anakin being 's! Empire tell people of Anakin Skywalker Actors Unite at Star Wars Celebration stupid move Mustafar. 'S being actively hunted by Inquisitors so a previous encounter with Vader does n't seem improbable to me Dooku... So a previous encounter with Vader does n't have all the information despite disappointing fans, Maul... The end dedicated to in-depth discussion of the `` circumstances '' Wars.. Decapitated Anakin the day he left tatooine escapees ' location, hehurried to intercept a stop-gap to... Canon explanation of Anakin beating someone who has that he mentally made the connection Anakin! A couple of strikes a bad case for Anakin being Sidious 's new apprentice not disrespect disobey. Have the misfortune of needing to interact with him actually know he exists his legs left! Pissed off at the Maul for killing qui gon Jinn who saved Anakin from slavery 'm overthinking... When Maul discovered the escapees ' location, hehurried to intercept, Palps the.